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PostSubject: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:27 pm

i'm looking for "rock" songs that are at least 18 minutes long. i have to write a paper on one. i know about Yes and Rush. i'll probably go with The Decline if he lets me but i just wanted to see if you guys had some better suggestions.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:30 pm

Echoes by Pink Floyd!
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:42 pm

Aaron wrote:
Echoes by Pink Floyd!

I came here to say this.

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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:02 pm

A Change of Seasons by Dream Theater (23 minutes long).

The Glass Prison by Dream Theater (13 minutes long).

The Decline by NOFX (18 minutes long).

Third Eye by Tool (13 minutes long).

10,000 Days pt 2 by Tool (11 minutes long).

Rosetta Stoned by Tool (11 minutes long).

2112 by Rush (when people think long rock songs, this should be one of the first ones they think of).

The Island by the Decemberists (12 minutes long).

Let's Not Shit Ourselves by Bright Eyes (10 minutes).

I know Green Day's "Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" are around 10 minutes as well.






Rock bands writing songs that are around or exceed 10 minutes is usually pretty rare except for intensely technical bands like Tool, Rush, or Dream Theater. Yes, "The Decline" is long, a punk epic, and I know there are a few people here who would just say to write it about that one.

However, if you want to be able to write about the complexity of the music as well, I strongly recommend you choose a Rush, Tool, or Dream Theater song. These three bands have been known to use a lot of "poly-rhythms". What this means is they write their music in odd time signatures or in odd rhythms. Sometimes each member of the band will be playing in a different time signature throughout parts of the song. This means that usual 4/4 "pulse" you hear in music (the beat that you find easily and clap to, or stomp your foot to) is harder to find because it is offset. It requires a LOT of focus and counting on the musicians part. Bands that do this are usually filed under the "prog-rock" or "math rock" genre.

Any of the longer songs listed by other bands are written in mostly the same time signature (if not all the way through). You can find the pulse incredibly easy. This does not make them bad songs at all, they just are not as musically complex as the others.

If you want a lot to sound impressive and be able to write about the complexity of the music as well as the lyrical content, then look towards Tool, Rush, or Dream Theater.




(I know there are probably other prog-rock, tech groups out there, but these three are some of the most well known).



EDIT: Echoes has multiple time signatures as well.




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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:25 pm

Opeth - Black Rose Immortal - 20 minutes
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize - 18 minutes
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:36 pm

matt_d84 wrote:

Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize - 18 minutes

I did not know about this band. This is awesome stuff!
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:17 pm

Deep Purple have got some long songs, but I don't think they have 18 minute songs.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:18 pm

The Battle of Hampton Roads by Titus Andronicus is about 15 minutes long.
And it is so fucking awesome.

edit: its actually 14 minutes.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:41 pm

The Decemberists, Rush, Yes, and Dream Theater were the bands my professor gave as examples so i know pretty much everyone will go with a song by them.
he doesn't care for Pink Floyd and is pretty open about how bias he is so i was trying to stay away from them :/
i was thinking of going with The Decline because no one in the class knows who NoFX is, sounds impossible but this class is so sad.
i was also thinking about doing a King Crimson song.
at first this assignment was easy because the song had to be 10 minutes or longer but he changed it to 18 limiting the choices like crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:44 pm

Oh shit, 18 minute limit?

That's pretty ridiculous.

Don't write about any of the suggestions your prof gave then. You might as well go with something like "The Decline" to make your paper sound different than all the other papers on Rush or Dream Theater.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:15 pm

Go with "The Decline"

On a side note, could it be instrumental rock? Mogwai and Godspeed have some songs that are up there in length
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:34 pm

If you combined all parts of Shine On you Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd, it'd be almost 26 minutes. Great song.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:27 pm

to live is to die by metallica is 10min.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:07 pm

he lowered the limit to 15 minutes.
the song can be a tad shorter if it goes through enough changes and what not.
i don't know anything about music theory and that's the kind of paper he wants.
he keeps saying if it were him he'd definitely write about "Awaken" by Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:07 pm


haha 14:11 but I just fucking love this song.
however if your professor is a huge Yes fan he might hate it, but who knows.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:50 pm

i was considering that song haha.
i have no idea how to write about the time and the measures and the blahblahblah.
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PostSubject: Re: long songs   Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:04 pm

Ah, see, I would kill to write a paper like this because that stuff is the best part. Just Wikipedia whatever you can, usually for long epic songs they break it down for you. Or Google for some forum threads with people looking for advice on how to play the song, you should get some stuff on time signatures and measures and what not.
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