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PostSubject: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 2:08 am

Just curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this. How do you feel about the death penalty? Are you for or against it? Personally, the idea of the state killing somebody is creepy to me. Sometimes I read those websites that list all of the death row inmates in any given state and shows their picture with an explanation of their crime. It's so weird to know that all of those people are going to die at the hands of the government.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 4:12 am

It's a bit like 'Oh this guy killed someone, let's kill him too because it will solve it'. Giving someone the death penalty makes the judge no worse than the actual person who committed the murder to me, it's all about how strong the crime though i suppose. I know people won't agree with me but yeah it is creepy.

I think it would be more torment to be locked up for 20 years and serving that exact amount, you'd have a lot of time to reflect on what you have done. I think there's an Alexisonfire video where one of the members plays a prison inmate who is given the opportunity to run out the front door but he turns around and walks back to his cell to live off the rest of his sentence, powerful stuff but it's pretty true.
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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 5:40 am

The death penalty is so archaic. I find it laughable that some places still think it's a viable option, but then I'm a pussy left wing pacifist red liberal commie so what the hell would I know.

Supporting the death penalty is like supporting a program where all rapists are raped by the long dick of the law. Or, better yet, a law where anyone caught selling drugs gets punished by having the state sell drugs to them. Or how about where someone caught burgling has their house burgled by the government?*

I mean... just... wtf. It's so childish.





* (ok, so it's a lot more complex than any of these examples, but well... fuck you)

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 7:44 am

So, to play devil's advocate- you guys (those of you who are against the death penalty) have no problem paying your tax money to keep people who have committed crimes punishable by death alive? What would you suggest the government do with criminals instead? It's easy to say you're against the way things are now, but harder to come up with something better.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 8:52 am

I don't mind having my money keep the criminals alive, better than my money used for killing them. The government pays for so many things, whatever if it's criminals.

I think the death penalty is awful and barbaric. I guess it's coming a long way from burning witches at the stake, but the idea is still there. No one has any right to take a persons life, even if the criminal did it, it's no our place (and most certainly not the states) to take their life in return.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 8:54 am

i have problems with certain types of sickos. people who rape/kill children.
in those cases i think the government should just pay me to execute them.
i wouldn't have too much of a problem with it.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 10:22 am

i don't think it really solves much but the family/friends of the victim would probably beg to differ

say they raped and killed your mother or little sister or brother or father or anyone you're close to.
most would want that person dead.

that's part of the reason i think it's still around, to serve "justice" for the mourning family.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 11:12 am

don't kill people. not anyone ever.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 11:35 am

laurendelore wrote:
Personally, the idea of the state killing somebody is creepy to me.


This. Exactly.


hastekilledcreativity wrote:
have no problem paying your tax money to keep people who have committed crimes punishable by death alive? What would you suggest the government do with criminals instead? It's easy to say you're against the way things are now, but harder to come up with something better.


The death penalty is actually very expensive. All of the litigation thats involved takes up a lot of resources. Not to mention that if someone is mentally or physically unhealthy we have to pay to make them "better" because its illegal to execute sick people.
The fact is that there are way to many people incarcerated in this country. We spend far too much money imprisoning people for nonviolent crimes. Not to mention that our justice system is based on punishment, not rehabilitation, so we have a high rate of recitivism.
I don't think its all that hard to come up with something better than the American criminal justice system. Its kind of a joke.
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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 12:02 pm

ThusSpokeYourFace wrote:
laurendelore wrote:
Personally, the idea of the state killing somebody is creepy to me.


This. Exactly.



the idea of anyone killing someone is creepy.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 2:29 pm

I think I'm a little bizzar, but I am ok with the death penalty as long as there is a shit load of evidence proving that the person did it, and as long as the person deserves it. If some drug dealer kills another drug dealer for something, then I don't necessarily believe they should be killed, because the person who got killed probably deserved it anyway. However if a bunch of gang members are doing a drive by shooting and shoot some kid just walking down the street, fuck him, the judge should be allowed to physically rip his head off.
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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 5:18 pm

BradGodfrey wrote:
I think I'm a little bizzar, but I am ok with the death penalty as long as there is a shit load of evidence proving that the person did it, and as long as the person deserves it. If some drug dealer kills another drug dealer for something, then I don't necessarily believe they should be killed, because the person who got killed probably deserved it anyway. However if a bunch of gang members are doing a drive by shooting and shoot some kid just walking down the street, fuck him, the judge should be allowed to physically rip his head off.


I was gunna post, but then I read this. And yeah, pretty much exactly what I was going to say.
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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Yesterday at 9:09 pm

ThusSpokeYourFace wrote:
laurendelore wrote:
Personally, the idea of the state killing somebody is creepy to me.


This. Exactly.


hastekilledcreativity wrote:
have no problem paying your tax money to keep people who have committed crimes punishable by death alive? What would you suggest the government do with criminals instead? It's easy to say you're against the way things are now, but harder to come up with something better.


The death penalty is actually very expensive. All of the litigation thats involved takes up a lot of resources. Not to mention that if someone is mentally or physically unhealthy we have to pay to make them "better" because its illegal to execute sick people.
The fact is that there are way to many people incarcerated in this country. We spend far too much money imprisoning people for nonviolent crimes. Not to mention that our justice system is based on punishment, not rehabilitation, so we have a high rate of recitivism.
I don't think its all that hard to come up with something better than the American criminal justice system. Its kind of a joke.


I didn't say it wasn't expensive, I'm just asking about how the money, YOUR money, is being used. I'm just curious to see how people feel about it - it's not necessarily my opinion.

I do agree with you on the second half of what you said, but you still haven't given me something better.

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PostSubject: Re: The Death Penalty   Today at 5:45 pm

This is where the idea of bringing back gladiators comes in!

All death row inmates duke it out in a slick futuristic arena for a chance to win their freedom by having auto race, but usually the requirements for being set free are incredibly difficult, so no one will ever be freed. It should be on pay-per-view each week, have its own line of merchandise such as trading cards and t-shirts of everyone's favorite Inmate. It would help boost the economy because everyone would pay to see someone get esploded or kersplashed.


They should make a movie like that.





but seriously, I am for/against the death penalty, just depends on the crime that was committed. Some are more deserving that others.

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