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PostSubject: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 12:23 am

Fuck the Police. Watch that video all the way through, and listen to what Mayor Uncle Tom has to say, "the police showed remarkable restraint." The dude flew out of the driver's side window as the van rolled, is laying there unconscious and then 5-7 good old boys kick, and punch him. That's remarkable restraint? The video makes Rodney King look like a tickle fest.

Has it seemed to any of you that there is a marked increase in the severity and frequency of attacks like these? Fuck this pisses me off.

What about this fuck? Showing up in court every day wearing a bullet proof vest with police escort. Maybe if Oscar Grant had worn a bullet proof vest when he was out celebrating the New Year he'd still be alive. I can't wait until he's acquitted of murder, or alternately convicted of manslaughter and given a light sentence, and the public exacts its pound of flesh.

What really irks me is that these types of abuses seem to go down more in states with strict gun control laws. Here in Georgia, where concealed carry is legal and widely exercised (I have my concealed carry permit) the police seem to have a little more respect for the rule of law. In the People Republic of Californiastan where one cannot legally exercise the right to bear arms, it seems the police are significantly more cavalier in their attitudes towards trampling the individual's rights to remain breathing and not dead in a train station. I'm glad to see that gun control has cut down on street violence and that criminals respect those laws and don't continue to illegally carry and use those weapons lol!.

Remember kids, you have the absolute right to defend yourself from unlawful arrest, up to, and including, using deadly force. But I guess that won't help you if you're surrounded by 5 officers, spread eagle on some cold tile, and one of them decides to execute you.

I don't think anything I just wrote made any sense. Fuck, I'm pissed.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 1:03 am

I'll read this after my psychology exam.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 2:17 am

At least those cops were fired. Most of the time they just get paid suspension.
I can't stand cops... pig
I mean, some of them yes, if I am in danger and I call the cops I appreciate their assistance. But more often than not they can't do anything for me anyway, seeing as how the law is mostly designed to protect property owning crackers. At least in my experience.
Cops are not trained adequately either.They're like a bunch of attack dogs with no accounting for variables like mental or physical health problems. There was this kid that lived around where I do that was here illegally and he got arrested for some insignificant misdemeanor, and was afraid he was going to get deported so he tried to escape and of course couldn't, so they beat the shit out of him and he hung himself in county. No suicide watch, no medical attention, nothing.
And that is not the only person I know of who has just been shoved up in a jail cell to rot even if they're out of their minds.

I'm not saying that there are no good cops either...its just I've never met any of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:19 am

There are some pretty badass cops here in San Marcos, but there are also many, many prick cops. There really isn't an in-between. Just a few on each end of the spectrum.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:40 am

Yes fuck the police, but gun control laws? I support them in nations where the police are not routinely armed. The state must never overpower the citizen.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 4:09 am

I'd like to add this to the list. It's what distracted me from studying all yesterday.

Also: At least the police officers get fired, these days.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 4:10 am

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Yes fuck the police, but gun control laws? I support them in nations where the police are not routinely armed. The state must never overpower the citizen.


Well put. + to you.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 7:34 am

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Yes fuck the police, but gun control laws? I support them in nations where the police are not routinely armed. The state must never overpower the citizen.


I am curious as to how gun and knife control laws helping to cut down on youth street violence in the UK?

A) Arms control doesn't work to prevent violence. Criminals break the law by definition. Criminals will get a gun if they want one, and will use that gun if they want to. B) As a corollary to the previous point, law-abiding citizens, by definition will not be armed and leads to a force disparity against their potential attackers and a force disparity against the police.

My primary interest in firearms is to check the power of the state. My primary interest in concealed carry is exercising a right that is offensive to many, while at the same time educating the public and the police, and providing personal protection for my self and those around me. To think that if I were in a situation where I needed to use force to defend myself, and would want to rely upon a cop to protect me is just laughable.

This dude probably never needed his gun until that day. And he probably ended up saving 7 lives, or at least prevent the women from being raped. Average Joes with guns protecting themselves and others happens all the time in Georgia, because rather enlightened approach to the value of life. If that happened in a place like the PRC, the potential victim would be going to jail, would be open to all kinds of civil action, all because he would not have legally been allowed to carry the firearm.

Please understand that there are many Federal and local laws that disqualify one from firearms possession and even more that disqualify one from concealed carry. For example, a simple misdemeanor drug charge or domestic disturbance charge, even if plead to a lesser charge, will disqualify one in Georgia from getting a concealed carry permit. One has to submit fingerprints and go through a state and FBI background check to get a permit. Unlawful concealed carry carries jail time. All these things allow the police to take people off the street if they are found with a gun, but protect those of us that have lawful intent to firearms ownership.

Take a look at New York, Okaland, Detroit, LA, Chicago, Boston, D.C., Baltimore, Philadelphia, and many of the other cities plagued by street violence - specifically gun violence. They almost all either completely disallow lawful concealed carry, or you must be a specific class of person (i.e. private eye, retired cop) and the criminal, and police elements take advantage of that fact.

I'm not for gun violence, or for illegal carry of weapons, and I wish that current gun laws were more stringently enforced, but I think more gun control isn't the answer to lowering gun violence.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 8:19 am

I'm pretty sure - though this is completely unsourced - Canada's gun-related crime rate is significantly lower than that of the US.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 9:04 am

Why should people need to protect themselves? This isn't a war zone.

Allowing people weaponry to "protect themselves" against "criminals" just seems like scaremongering to me. How can we aspire to live in a safe society when everyone feels the need to be armed to the teeth?

And how much good does the ability to carry a weapon really do people? How many lives are saved compared to the number of lives lost as a direct result of there being weapons so much more readily available to the public?

It's not impossible to get hold of a weapon over here, but it's certainly not the walk in the park the papers would have people believe.

I'm not sure, I'd need to look up the figures again, but I'd be very sceptical if you're telling me the US has a lower rate of gun crime than the UK.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:40 pm

My brother is a cop and he's also a really really big N.W.A. fan. We always listen to "Fuck tha Police" when we go driving together.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:42 pm

I don't even know who NWA is, I just looked up "fuck the police" on youtube and that's what I found.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:44 pm

Oh how dare you..

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PostSubject: Re: Fuck the Police   Thu May 21, 2009 3:50 pm

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